The Tolland County 6

  

 

Debbie Spickler 13, missing from Rockville/Vernon, since July, 24 1968

Irene Larosa 17, Missing from Ellington, CT since March 1971

Janice Pockett 7, missing from Tolland, CT since July 26, 1973

Lisa White. 13 Missing from Rockville/Vernon, CT since Nov 1^st 1974

Susan La Rosa Missing from Rockville/Vernon, CT since June 22, 1975

Patrica Luce Missing from Rockville/Vernon, CT since July 18, 1978

Debbie Spickler and Janice Pockett.

I consider Debbie Spickler’s case and Janice Pockett’s case as the outliers in the Tolland County 6. As far as connections to the other cases that I listed, the only real connections that I have found are they all happened around the same general time and in the same general area. However, both cases seem to also have something that seems to set them apart. In the case of Debbie Spickler it seems to happen years before the others, and Janice Pockett seems too young to fit the victim profile. If not for both of the factors, I think I would be calling this post the Rockville 4. I think that you will see what I mean.

Debbie Spickler. 

 

Debbie Spickler 13, would go missing from Henry park in Vernon on July 24, 1968.

 

The area where Debbie Spickler went missing. The white dot on the lower right is 1/2 Fox hill Dr. where she was staying.

While there isn’t a lot of information on this case, Debbie was staying at a relative's house at ½ Fox Hill Dr the day that she went missing. It has been said that Debbie and her cousin were said to be looking for a friend that day. Eventually splitting up to try and find the person. Debbie was last seen walking towards the pool in Henry Park. Debbie has not been seen since.

Janice Pockett

 

janice Pockett.

Janice Pockett would go missing on July 26, 1973, not far from her home in Tolland, CT. After returning from the grocery store, Janice and her sister got into an argument over the color of toothbrushes that they had bought. Not long after that, Janice asked her mother if she could go down the street to collect a dead butterfly that she had hidden under a rock. This was near the intersection of Rhodes Rd and Anthony Rd. According to her sister, this was like a perfect butterfly. Wings and all still intact. They had found it on an earlier walk with their mother, and Jancie had placed it under a rock so that she come back and get it. Her mother told her to go and get the butterfly and come right back. Giving her a white envolpe to put the butterfly in. This was the last time that anyone would see Janice.

The intersection of Anthony and Rhodes Rd where Janice went missing. Here house is one of the first few on the right side of Anthony Rd. Brice Grove Primary school was not built until 1999

Tolland, Ct. The white dot is the intersection of Anthony and Rhodes Rd, where Janice went missing.

The two points on here show the distance between where Janice Pocket went missing and where Debbie Spickler went missing.

Janice's mother would eventually go and look for her with her sister. Finding Janice's bike laying on the ground, and no Janice. The police were called and searches began. Eventually, a witness came forward saying that they were going to the store that day. One of the neighbors, Nancy McDonald. She said she was traveling west on Rhodes road. When she came to the intersection of Anthony and Rhodes Road, there was a station wagon parked across the dirt road, so she could not continue down Rhodes road. She was forced to take a left and head to the store by going down Anthony Rd. It was a blue 4 door station wagon, and there was man about 6'2 skinny with a receding hairline near the car. The man that she saw was in a also green khaki uniform that Nancy said "workers" wore at the time. A quick google search of this type of uniform and the time period brings up a lot of military clothing. However, both protesters and active military had worn this type of clothing back then. This isn't what she describes, but it was a popular color back then.

Since I don’t live far from here, I made the half hour or so drive to Tolland so see the lay of the land for my self. The impression that I came away with was that this area was what I would call “the middle of nowhere.” Though the intersection where Janice went missing is just a little over a mile off of the main road, you have to remember that this is the main road of a farming town. If 84 even existed at this time, it was a fairly new highway. The Birch Grove Primary School near the intersection where she went missing wouldn’t be built until 1999.

Also, if you really look at the map there is only really 4 ways in and out of this area. This is why the only witness to Janice's disappearance turned and went down Anthony Rd instead of Rhodes Road. Couple that with the fact that Janice went missing around 3:30 in the afternoon and the man who was seen around the time that she went missing was wearing a uniform, it makes me wonder a few things. Did the person who took Janice get out of work, and just happen to see her on their way home? If so, is it possible that the person lived in the area, and that Janice still might not be all that far from home?

The Rockville 4.

 

I generally like to cover cases in chronological order because sometimes going over the events as they happen can revel clues. With all the odd connections between the next four cases, I decided not to cover it that way. This is also why I listed the cases at the top of the post. So you could quickly reference who went missing and when.

Lisa White.

On October 31, 1974, Lisa was picked up by her mother at the State Police station. She had been caught with her friend Maria and a couple of guys throwing pumpkins out of the window of a car on Interstate 84 near the Massachusetts border. Her mother grounded her and told her that she wasn't to see anyone that she had gotten into trouble with. On November 1st, Lisa waited for her mother to go to work before making the trip on foot from her home one Regan Rd, (Not to be confused with Regan St which is much closer) to her friend Maria's on Prospect street.

 

Approximate distance from Lisa White house on Regan Rd to her friend Maria's house on Prospect st. Note where Rockville Pharmacy is as well. It will be important in the next case.

 

According to Maria on the Paper Ghost's podcast, Lisa wanted to apologize to Maria's parents about getting her into trouble. Since Maria's mother wasn't home, and her father asleep, Lisa left a note for them. At some point that night, Lisa said goodbye to Maria and headed home. It was the last time anyone would see Lisa White.

The distance between Lisa White and Debbie Spickler's disappearances. The red boundary is Rockville, which is a section of Vernon, Ct.

Susan LaRosa.

 

Susan LaRosa.

 

Seven months after Lisa White went missing, Susan LaRosa 20, would go missing after leaving her home on Ward St in downtown Rockville on July 22, 1975. According to her husband Bob LaRosa, Susan left in the evening to go to the pharmacy. She was going to get formula and call her mother from the payphone. This is something that Susan would do every day. 

 

The distance from Ward St to the pharmacy. Walking this direction takes you past where Maria lived on Prospect St, where Lisa White was last seen. Maria, Lisa White's friend, also used to babysit for Susan LaRosa.

 

Bob Larosa was the last person to see Susan alive. Bo LaRosa also used to live next to Lisa White on Regan Rd.

Irene LaRosa.

 

Irene LaRosa missing since 1971.

 

Again, the connections to these cases can be a bit hard to follow, so reference the timeline if it gets too confusing.

Irene LaRosa is the sister of Bob LaRosa. Irene went missing sometime in 1971, and it was not reported to police for 45 years. During the research into one of the podcast's that covers these cases, Irene's niece would discover this, and finally report her missing. While there are rumors that she might have run away, her connection to Bob LaRosa, whose wife would go missing 4 years later, at least deserves a mention.

 

Patricia Luce

 

Patricia Luce went missing from 7-11 in Rockville. Just two months after Susan LaRosa's body was found on May 23, 1978. Near I86 (now I84) in Vernon.

This shows Ward St where Susan LaRosa went missing on the far right. Going down Prospect st where Lisa White went missing. Past the 7-11 where Patricia Luce was last seen. The end point on the left being the Pharmacy, where Susan LaRosa was heading.

 

Patricia Luce was dropped off at the 7-11 by her brother David Luce on July 18, 1978. thier parents were out of town, and her brother had just gotten his new Motorcycle on the road. While he was somewhat hesitant to leave her there, she said that she would be fine. He wouldn't figure out until trying to go home later that night that something was wrong. He had tried to get into the house, but it was still locked. Patti had the only key. When he had dropped her off at the 7-11, it was the last time that she was seen alive. Her body being found in Marlboro, Ct March 13, 1979.

 

One of the more interesting connections in these cases is that Lisa White and Patricia Luce were on the same Cheerleading team. 

 

Lisa White and Patricia Luce on the same cheerleading team.

Inclusion and exclusion.

There are a lot of theories about which of these cases might be connected and which might not be. The Paper Ghost's Podcast goings further into detail about these cases, including a lot of interviews with family members and witnesses from the days that this happened. It focuses a lot on the possibility of Bob LaRosa being involved in more than just the case of his wife going missing. Paper Ghost's makes a great point though about inclusion and exclusion. No matter what, you can not seem to include or exclude a case from another. Even down to Janice Pockett who was 5 miles away, in the middle of nowhere. As reported from the Paper Ghost's podcast. Bob LaRosa got rid of a station wagon, and some of his green Khaki clothes.

Patricia Luce's case was covered in the Crossing the Line podcast, which was also by M. William Phelps who also did the Paper Ghost's Podcast.

  

 Sources and further Reading.

Paper Ghosts Podcast.

Crossing the line Podcast.

News Paper Clippings.

 

Where is Vanessa Morales?

On Friday November 29^th 2019 Christine Holloway picked up her New used 2017 Ford Focus from the dealership with her daughter Vanessa Morales, and her boyfriend Jose Morales. After leaving the dealership they stopped at Jose’s parents house in New Haven. While I am not sure for the reason or duration of that visit from there Christine and Vanessa went back to 6 ½ Myrtle Ave in Ansonia, Ct. While Jose left and went to a guy named Hector’s.The reason for going to Hector’s apartment was so that the two of them could go to Bridgeport, Ct to pick up some PCP. Then they returned to Hector’s apartment and smoked some of the drug. Around 10 that Friday night Jose got a phone call and left to head to Christine's house in Ansonia, Ct.

There is no way to know exactly what happened in 6 ½ Myrtle Ave after this because the only person who really knows the answers to that question is Jose Morales. What we do know is that Christine stopped communicating not communicated with anyone via her phone starting on Saturday November 30^th. The day after getting her new car. This is one of those things that is hard to wrap your mind around. I know personally that if I got a new car I would have at least made an excuse to drive it to the store, but I guess that everyone is different. Like I said the only person that really knows is Jose Morales and he doesn’t come off exactly truthful.

Come Monday morning December 2, 2019 Christine nor Vanessa showed up to the day care where Christine was employed, and Vanessa where Vanessa attended. After her coworkers not being able to get a hold of her, Ansonia police were called to do a welfare check on her home at 6 ½ Myrtle Ave. Which is small apartment above a garage that she rented. Which had it’s own private entrance. Body cam footage shows Christine’s new Ford Focus parked outside, however no one answered the door. Police would end up leaving and contacting the Christine’s family. It was shortly after police left 6 ½ Myrtle Ave that Jose was seen leaving by a neighbor.

Around 7:30 that night Christine’s Brother and his Girlfriend showed up to the Ansonia police department stating that they had not been able to get a hold of Christine. They told police that they had gone to Jose’s parents house to ask if he had seen Christine. To which Jose said that he had seen Christine and Vanessa leave that morning for daycare, and he left at the same time. After 8 pm that night Police gained entry into 6 ½ Myrtle Ave and found Christine's lifeless body. Eventually Jose would be taken in and questioned before being arrested and ultimately charged with Christine Holloway's murder. To this day Vanessa has never been found.

This is where things start to get a little strange. During the investigation it was found that Jose had called 911 at 1:52am on Sunday 12/1/2019. The only thing that can be heard is Jose saying Myrtle Ave into the phone. After the call was enhanced a females voice can be heard in the background saying “Stop. Hang up. Who are you calling?” Between Vanessa being missing still, and this phone call, it may be possible that she is still alive.

But maybe not. In this laypersons opinion I am not convinced that Jose is the type of person who would be able to hand off a child to someone, and that it has been kept a secret for nearly 5 years now. Nor do I think he would have sold her because he didn’t run. I could be wrong, but he just doesn’t come off that way. What I think he did was try to rip off someone for drugs

What I speculate is that he had called someone for drugs with no intention of paying them. When they started beating the crap out of him he called 911 and was saying “Myrtle Avenue” so the cops would come to that area and scare the people off. Jose would eventually tell the police that people had tried to enter the apartment at 6 ½ Myrtle Ave and beat him up. Which is why he had called 911. With all of the other things that he was lying about, I doubt that anyone tried to attack him inside of his apartment. Also that Sunday he would be seen at a gas station where his card was declined for a pack of cigarettes. I mean if you had come to, why didn’t you report the attack on Sunday, or Monday?

This is one of those situations where dumb luck seems to be at play. If you have never read into the Case of Jenifer Kesse, there is a perpetrator seen dropping off her car on video, however in all of the frames, their face just happens to be blocked by a fence. The woman who can be heard on the 911 call might be a person who won’t come forward because they could be arrested for dealing drugs. Giving Jose room to create doubt. This is one of those things that I think the state would give immunity for testifying against him, but that is just an opinion.

Without that person coming forward, or Vanessa being found, this could make it rather difficult for the state to gain justice to the level that is appropriate. For what happened to Christine at the very least. While I hope that Vanessa is still alive, I wonder if Jose did something else to her.

Whatever happened to Vanessa, if she lived or is something else, she should be placed with her mother, or back into the hands of people that Christine trusted. Everyday since that weekend is just another theft of a mothers love for her child, and needs of a child for that love. It is an act of selfishness for both Jose and the woman on the 911 call not to be truthful with police.

I hope one day that Vanessa is found.

Thanks for reading,

Phoenix.

 

Movie Review: UHF. Released in 1989.

I honestly say without bashing Weird Al as a person that UHF sucks. Good thing for me is that I don’t think every movie has to be good to like it.

If you have never watched it the Movie centers around protagonist George Newman (Weird AL.) A guy that has wondered from job to job never really finding his station in life. It is clear from the opening scene that he is a dreamer, and that effects his responsibilities as a line cook at a fast food restaurant. For which he is immediately fired. While all this is happening George’s Uncle Harvey wins Station 62 an old run down hardly operating UHF station in a bet. As Harvey contemplates what to do with it, George's Aunt Ester talks his Uncle Harvey unto letting George run the station.

In an unsuspecting turn channel 62 gets some mail that was meant for channel 8. George thinks it would be a nice gesture to bring it over to channel 8 where he meets RJ Fletcher who is the owner. Fletcher is in the middle of a triad when George shows up with his mail. Yelling at the janitor Stanley (Michael Richards before staring in Sienfeld) and firing him for losing some report. George feels bad and ends up giving the janitor a new job at station 62.

As the movie goes on George and Bob try to get the station going with new shows. One of them being Uncle Nutzies Clubhouse. Where George is the host. Like every other show they tried up until this point it is no doing well. Not only that George and his girlfriend are fighting. As Bob and George talk it becomes clear that the station is going to go under. This causes George to give up in the middle of Uncle Nutzie’s Clubhouse, and offering it to Stanley as George and Bob leave the station to go to a bar.

While sitting at the bar they notice that everyone in the place is locked on the TV. Stanley has all of the kids at the station going crazy and tells an inspirational story about his mop that is the start of where Station 62 starts to turn around. George and Bobs rating go through the roof. They come up with new show like Conan the Librarian and fake commercials for places like spatula City. A nature show but where the guy does it out of his own apartment. As luck would have it Harvey looses a string of bets and is forced to sell off the station right has George is starting to make money. While I won’t dead give a way the ending, the group that forms around the station bands together to try and save it.

From what I have read about him and his manager writing it is that they had all these idea’s and then strung them together with the whole idea of basing it all around a TV Station. Which if you think about it is a lot like his polka songs. A bunch of hit songs in part, strung together with Weird Al at the accordion. I have a soft spot for Weird Al. Being born in the late 1970’s there isn’t a time that I can remember where he didn’t exist. Weird Al was just sort of part of the soundtrack of life if you grew up in the 1980s. If there was a hit song out there, you were sure to here one of his parody’s eventually. Like a virgin by Madonna was turned into like a surgeon. Michael Jackson’s beat it was turned into Eat it. I love rock and roll was changed into I love Rocky Road. If you were a boy growing up in the 1980’s it was safe to say you had one of his albums at some point.

If I had to guess, I would say that Weird Al started this all by ad libbing lyrics to the melody's that were stuck in his head. I mean I don’t know that for sure, it is just something that I do. After thinking about it, it is probably because of Weird Al. It was something that all of my friends did as well. Sometimes to make fun of a song, and sometimes to make fun of each other. Sometimes just saying what I am currently doing to the melody of whatever song.

All these years later I still do it. With almost every song that I hear on the radio, when it gets stuck in my head. I do this so much that my 5 year old has been doing it for about 2 years now. Singing about walking down the hall to take a bath, or just playing with his cars. Along to a melody of a song that he probably heard on the radio. My son has likely never heard the name Weird Al before, and it has already changed his life for the better.

That is a sort of magic only really entertainers have. Weird Al is the only other person who I considered to be somewhat like Andy Kaufman, but completely to his own respect. He isn’t so much a comedian as much as he is a “song and dance man.” He was definitely more of a song and dance man than a movie maker. Nirvana would go on to say that this was one of the signs that they had made it. That Weird Al had parodied one of their songs. Smells like Nirvana is still one of my favorites. Not as good as Harvey the Wonder Hamster but to each their own.

There is a positivity to it, it’s own light if you will that is not only reflected in his music, but also this movie. It is one of those gentle reminders that not everything in life needs to be taken so seriously. Movies and music included. There is room for the absurd as much is there is room for arts. Both pull out a light and echo it into those around us, and it helps inspire us to live. Good or bad, perfect or not, original or parody.

However I will close this with a quote from Rush because somethings are already said so beautifully why change them?

“All this machinery making modern music
Can still be open-hearted
Not so coldly charted, it's really just a question of your honesty
Yeah, your honesty
One likes to believe in the freedom of music
But glittering prizes and endless compromises
Shatter the illusion of integrity, yeah”

So as I was saying when I started this blog entry, UHF sucks, but Weird Al is still a more amazing person than most people will ever realize.

Thank you for reading,

Phoenix.

Unsloved. Molly Bish.

 

The day before...

One June 26, 2000 Magi Bish dropped Molly Bish off for her 7^th day working as a lifeguard at Comings pond in Warren, Ma. This was her first day working alone. Molly had gotten this job because her brother had worked as a lifeguard at the same pond in the 3 summers prior to her disappearance. He trained her for the job the week before, before going to work on construction during his summer vacation. Though this was the day before Molly would go missing, it is a day that her mother would come back to over and over again in the years after she was abducted. That day, when Magi was dropping Molly off at the pond, she noticed a man in a white car (later described as a mid 1980s Buick.) Sitting in his car smoking, and seeming to watch them. Magi was so unnerved by this man, she waited in the parking lot until he left.

Magi called it mother's intuition. She knew that something was off. Magi would later give the description of this man to a sketch artist, and his image would eventually be plastered everywhere.

Also on June 26^th, 2000 one of Molly friends would get hit by a car. Though I have tried, I have failed to find the name of this person or what might have happened to them. Does this have anything at all to do with the abduction and murder of Molly Bish? I am not sure. If you had asked my 20 years ago, I would have dismissed this, with the at least 3 other people that died surrounding this case I have to say that at the very least is a valid question. Which I will get into more after I get through the timeline.

June 27^th 2000

From what I understand, Molly was pushing her mother because she didn’t want to be late. They stopped at the gas station in town, at about 9:50 am, to get water. (There is a short video clip of this.) Then the police department to get the two-way radio, and Magi dropped Molly at off at the pond for her shift.

Sandra Woodworth would show up to the pond about 20 minutes later with her kids. Only to find Molly’s beach chair, sandals, backpack and two-way radio. Ed Fett, the Warren parks commissioner at the time and Molly’s boss, showed up to Comins pond around 11 am. He found out from Sandra Woodworth that Molly hadn’t been there for her whole shift. He would stay at the pond for 45 minutes before driving over to the police department to report that Molly had never showed up at work.

Let’s talk a little more about where Ed Fett was that day before we keep going because it is significant to what happens years later.

That morning, Ed Fett had met 3 boys in Cutter Park in Warren at 9 :00 am so that they could perform community service. From what one of the boys said, Ed Fett was already at the park with brushes and paint. Sometime between 9:20 am and 11 am that morning, Ed Fett would leave Cutter Park. Supposedly by chance he had run into John Bish Jr, Molly’s brother and his former employee at the West Brookfield hardware store. According to Heather Bish on the Missing Maura Murray podcast, ED Fett was buying rope and duct tape that morning. This all happening before meeting Susan Woodworth at the park at 11:00am. Again, staying there for 45 minutes before going to the police department to report her Molly missing.

At 12:30 the 3 boys would be picked up at Cutter park by Ed Fett and brought out to lunch at Mona’s Pizza, (which was right in the center of Warren) with Warren Police Chief Ronald Syriac. From what I understand, none of the boys were not told that Molly was missing, even though Ed Fett had already reported her missing. Molly’s mother Magi would find out by a phone call at 1pm.

The following days and months, a lot of the focus would be placed on the guy in the white car that Magi had seen the day before on June 26th. With all the attention this case received over 20 plus years, it is hard not to think that the guy who was just sitting there in that white car had something to do with it. I mean, if not, why not help the police out and just tell them who you are and stop them from looking for you?

3 Years later.

June 9^th, 2003 Some of Molly’s remains were found near the Palmer Ware line. On top of a steep incline called Whiskey Hill. Which is now a speedway. They were located by a hunter sometime before they were reported because the person had not made the connection. It wasn’t until he was talking to a friend that he mentioned seeing a blue bikini in the woods, and his friend talked him into reporting it. This triggered one of the largest grid searches ever done in Massachusetts state police history. Finding only 26 bones and some of her hair and teeth.

Two days later on June 11^th, 2003 Peter Rambiszewski would die in the second car accident that he had that day, which were only spaced a few hours apart. Most of the reports that I have read question whether or not Peter had killed himself over the grief of what happened to Molly. Sighting they were friends, and that he was deeply effected by her going missing. It was also reported that he had recently worked at Mona’s Pizza.

Years down the road.

June 18^th, 2007 John Bish (sr.) has a massive stroke and spends some time in critical care before being released.

On October 19^th 2007, Attorney Richard L. Greco Assistant DA who lead the grand jury investigation into Molly Bish died at his home of a thoracic aneurysm. (Stroke.)

On October 13^th 2008 Steven Lukas, Boyfriend of Molly Bish, would get into a high speed single car accident on Fuller Road in Palmer. Dying from his injuries a short time later.

On May 18^th, 2012 Kennith Tatro passed away in Florida. He testified to the grand jury in 2006 that there was a man seen in a White Chevy Corsica staring at Molly in the days leading up to her disappearance. Kennith would make a deal with Assistant DA over missing court dates while serving in Iraq specifically to testify in the Grand Jury that he was leading about Molly Bish.

On May 15^th 2018 Gerard Tatro, Kennith’s younger brother would die. Gerard had worked for the Warren Parks department the year that Molly went missing. From what I have read, both brothers knew Molly, and Kennith had even dated one of Molly’s friends.

While I wouldn’t go as far as to say that these deaths all have to do with some conspiracy surrounding Molly’s abduction and murder, I can at least say in my own lay persons' opinion that this is eyebrow raising. To know that at the very least the parks' commissioner, who was Molly’s boss and had already reported her missing, was sitting with the chief of police and neither of them were talking about a town employee being missing is pretty strange.

If you are looking for more information on this, I would suggest the articles that were written on the website Medium about this case are rather informative. I also got a lot of information from what Heather Bish, sister of Molly Bish, when she did the then podcast Missing Maura Murray, which is now just MissingCSM. It is run by Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna. Heather gives a detailed account about what happened to her and her family that day. If you take the time to listen to her interview I want to point out a couple of things that I noticed. Pay close attention to what she says about the Warren Parks Commissioner, who is Ed Fett. The information is rather shocking.

Also, I wanted to point out what Heather says about sharing information between departments. While I don’t know all the in’s and out’s of the laws, what I gather is that there is obligation to share information between departments. Which is interesting when you consider where Molly’s body was found. Which was almost directly on the Palmer/Ware border.

Part of what makes all of this information interesting is what happened not too far away at UMASS Amherst in 2004. When Maura Murray was to go missing. While I won’t go into the details of that case, there are a few things that I wanted to point out. One is that Maura Murray was supposedly in two single car accidents on jurisdictional lines. Which makes it difficult when departments argue about who has jurisdiction. One of the more recent developments in Maura Murray’s case was the FBI releasing a ViCAP. Which one of its objectives was the sharing of information between departments.

I would further look into what Heather has said about the investigation into her sister's case as a whole. The DNA evidence is a strange thing in this case. I think that part of the reason for that is that the family’s private investigator was the person to find the shorts with the DNA on it, on Whiskey Hill, in a bag, after the major search by Massachusetts Law Enforcement looking for more of her remains. What I have found remarkable about this is Law Enforcement told Heather Bish that they would no longer be talking to her about the DNA.

Anyway. Thank you for reading and keeping awareness up for this case. Have a great rest of your day!

Phoenix.

What happened to Molly Young?

“Hi, uh, we have a person at my living facility we believe to be dead.” This is the first line of the 911 call placed by Molly Young’s ex-boyfriends roommate on March 24, 2012. Halfway through the call, her ex-boyfriend would take over.

This is one of those things that is pretty shocking when you first hear it. Not only the words, but calm demeanor of Wes Romack who supposedly just woke up to find his roommates' ex-girlfriend dead. “Like he was ordering a pizza.” It is the way that this call has been described. Not too long into the call, Wes hands the phone off to Richie Minton, who is a dispatcher in the town of Carbondale, Il. Richie tells the dispatcher, who he knows by first name, that his girlfriend “just committed suicide” and “overdosed and bled out through her nose.” Reflecting the same calm demeanor as Wes.

Right from the get-go this whole scene seems set off red flags. It seems strange that Wes would make the call rather than Richie in the first place. Molly was inside of Richie’s room, so you would think that the first thing he would have tried to do was wake her up. Getting more panicked that she wasn’t responding, then looking for his phone to call 911. Then he wakes up his roommate and has him call? I mean, if I found someone that I cared about on the floor in my room and I couldn’t get them to wake up I think I would be rushing the dispatchers. You know, hurry, send help, she isn’t breathing. Something that would display some sort of shock. I mean like...anything. It just seems absent of any emotion at all.

Not long after hanging up, Richie would place a second call to the Carbondale police department on their regular number. Asking the dispatcher to send the Sargent because he just found his gun under Molly’s body. Then he apologizes for being late, again coming off amazingly calm for the situation that is unfolding around him.

Unfortunately, these are not the only things about the 911 calls that don’t seem to make any sense. Richie had supposedly texted Molly the night before asking for help because he was drunk and throwing up on himself. Molly leaving her house sometime after 2 am to go over to “help” Richie. According to Richie, he didn’t wake up until people started to text him from Carbondale PD because he was late for his shift, which started at 7am. Which is strange when you consider that Richie said he was woken by his phone. As we already know, Richie had his roommate Wes make the 911 call on his phone. Even stranger than still is former Chief of police for Carbondale saying that Richie had in fact called before 9 am to say that he was going to be late. I found this a little shocking myself, so I am even going out of my way to link this information. This is from Crime Watch Daily. The part I am referencing starts around the 30-min mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn4-wHZoaD4&rco=1

If the two 911 calls weren't enough to raise red flags that something strange had happened here, the way that Molly supposedly “killed herself” should at least raises eyebrows. With the way that the bullet made the wound, Molly would have had to have the gun in her left hand, reached above her head, and shot herself downwards. From what Molly’s family claims, not only did Molly hate guns, she was also right-handed.

If at this point you are asking why LE didn’t pick up on something being really strange here, I might have the answer to that question. Both of Richie Milton's parents in some form worked for law enforcement. His father specifically did forensic’s on computers and cell phones. This is another point that has been raised by Molly’s family. Is it possible that Molly’s phone was tampered with before the 911 call was placed. I normally would consider this a stretch, but given Richie’s father’s profession and that some of the neighbors reported that police had knocked on their door BEFORE the 911 calls were placed, I would have to at the bare minimum say that there is some room for doubt and question.

I find it even more strange that Richie Minton’s laptop wasn’t collected by police until 2 months after the whole incident. Meanwhile, investigators showed up to Molly’s house and collected items that seem to point directly at her being suicidal. Which included her laptop. Her family again defends some of the things that she wrote when she thought that she might have cancer. If you have never been around someone that has been suicidal, trust me, if you live with them, you are going to be able to tell. So in this case I believe the family.

While this may come off as somewhat confusing when you play the details out like they seemed to have happened that night. Richie was texting some other woman, when she didn’t go for his advances, he texted Molly. Then whatever happened at the apartment that night happened. Around 7 am the chief of police says (on video that I posted) that Richie called in late. Police officers were seen at his apartment complex before the 911 call was placed. Two really odd calls we placed that seemed to be devoid of all emotion. The police show up, allow Richie to change and wash his hands. Don’t take his phone. Richie Lawyers up. LE searches Molly’s room, seemingly to friend evidence of Molly trying to harm herself.

What I can say with a lot of certainty that if my kid had died in this sort of situation, I would be asking the same questions. This family lost the right to be able to sue for wrongful death, was denied FOIA requests even for the 911 calls at first, and seemingly diagnosed as suicidal from people who are not qualified to make that determination.

In my opinion this case should be looked at a little closer.

Billy Smolinski. Missing since 2004.

I want to start here with this just because it is note worthy. This is the first and only case that I have found where I have heard anything like this. Here is a person’s mother looking for their child, and here is Billy Smolinski’s most recent ex-girlfriend, who is a mother of 5, ripping down his missing posters. Billy Smolinski’s mother would eventually get arrested for harassing her sons former girlfriend for get this…. Putting up the missing posters…... to harass her. I still to this day find it shocking.

Let’s get into Billy’s case a little more before we come back to this because the case in itself is pretty strange. So since I started at sort of a middle point, let me dial this all the way back because this case usually told from the perspective of LE. What I mean by that is the investigation starts a few days after he was last seen, and that is not for a lack of trying on the family’s part.

So what I have gathered about Billy was that he was a hard working car guy. Usually had more than one job, and also buying cars on the side, fixing them up and then selling them. He was 31 at the time he went missing and owned his own home. He had separated from his long time girlfriend Mary Ellen Noble a year or more before which was described as mutual. Since Billy and Mary Ellen Noble had gotten the dog while they were together, Billy would call her to take care of the dog while he was away. (This is significant because mary Ellen Noble was watching the dog while Billy and Madeline were on vacation in Florida.

One of Billy’s jobs was working at a bus company. Whether or not they had met while working at the bus company together I am unsure of that fact, but they did work there together at the bus company during their relationship. What makes this significant is that Madeline (Billy’s more recent girlfriend) had been cheating on him with their boss from the bus company Chris. From what I gather Billy had been suspicious of at least her cheating on him, however I am unsure if he knew it was Chris.

What we do know is that shortly before Billy went missing he had been on a vacation with Madeline in Florida. It was expressed by Billy’s family that they were surprised that Billy even went because he didn’t travel all that much. It was during this trip to Florida that Billy would catch Madeline getting phone calls from Chris while they were on vacation. Billy even at one point supposedly took her phone, and Madeline started yelling for the police. While I am sure there are other details to this, Billy cut his vacation short and came home. It seems as though Madeline’s vacation ended at the same time.

According to Madeline, in the early morning of August 24^th, 2004 Billy showed up to Madeline’s house at around 4 am, put a ladder up to her window to talk to her. According to Madeline Billy wanted to get back together, which she said either no, or that she she had to think about it.

Sometime in the afternoon Billy made three calls to Chris, the last one leaving a voicemail that said “Chris, you better watch your back at all times.”

Later on August 24^th, Billy would end up going to Burger King and get a Whopper meal at 2:59 pm. Sometime after that he asked his neighbor Roy if he could watch his dog while he went “up north for three days” to look at a car he was thinking about buying. This would be the last time that anyone was known to have talked to Billy Smolinski.

Billy’s family would try and file a report right away, but since Billy was an adult, and he had told someone that he was leaving, LE made them wait until August 27^th to declare Billy missing.

In the following year not only would Madeline get caught tearing down his missing posters, and at some point Billy’s mother would get arrested for harassing Madeline. In January of 2005 Madeleine son Shaun Karpiuk, would die from an overdose. After doing a deeper dive into this case there are a few more people who died around this case that at the very least raises a few eye brows. Even someone who has told police he knew were Billy was buried, and the police even doing a few digs. Though I am not going to get into that now to keep this post simple and make my points.

None of this makes any sense.

For one, Billy had just asked Mary Ellen Noble to watch his dog while he went to Florida with another woman. Why would Billy ask his neighbor Roy, who it has been expressed by some that Billy didn’t like Roy. So knowing all of that, why wouldn’t he call Mary Ellen again to watch his dog? She had been watching the dog for him two or three days before that…..

Secondly, how is it that Billy drives over to Madeleine’s house in the middle of the night and gets a ladder to put it up to her window to talk to her, but has no problem calling Chris at work to threaten him? This would mean Billy got up in the middle of the night, drove to her house in a different town, either found the ladder or brought it with him (because he knew the doors would be locked??? Or as if they dated for a year and he didn’t have a key???)

So this is where I am going to get into pure speculation. Not to try and sway anyone to think what I think, but just to get a little more attention to Billy’s case.

If you have ever had a drug person in your family you would know what I am talking about. It is a disease that causes people to do things they normally wouldn’t do if they weren’t addicted to drugs. Especially heroin. This is a reason to keep your doors locked. Things sometimes just disappear and suddenly someone has money for drugs and you don’t see them for a week.

Now here is Billy, a car guy that always has a car in the yard that he is working on, probably sells them for cash. Might even keep cash in the house. Might of even had a wad of cash on him that he expected to spend on vacation in Florida.

So let me ask you, what seems more probable. Billy showing up to Madeleine’s house in the middle of the night and getting a ladder? Or her son, who probably couldn’t afford a cell phone, going to his mother for help, and putting the ladder up (probably because he knew where it was kept) and getting her attention for one reason or another?

So let me ask this. Is it possible that Madeleine was tearing down Billy’s missing posters to protect her own son? Is it possible that over the year that Billy and Madeleine dated, that Shaun and Billy became friends and Shaun knew where Billy kept cash in the house?

Either way, Billy’s mother is still trying to get attention to her sons case. So thank you for taking the time to read this.

Is it possible that D.B. Cooper lived?

 

The basics of what we already know.

On November the 24^th, 1971 a man identifying himself only as Dan Cooper bought a ticket at the airport in Portland going for a short jump up to Seattle, Washington. Once in the air, he gave one of the flight attendants a note saying that he had a bomb, and that he wanted her to come and sit next to him. Over the next few hours he would keep the passengers completely in the dark about what was going on, as well as write notes for some of his demands, and had the presence of mind to ask for them back afterwards. It also seems as though he knew never to go near the cockpit, perhaps that is because he had some knowledge of cockpit voice recorders.

He demanded 200k in cash and 4 parachutes. He had the plane stay in the sky while the FBI gathered the money and the parachutes. DB Cooper had the 727 stay at the end of the runway and keep all the shades on the plane closed. It was also at this time the plane got fuel. Long story short eventually the Cooper was satisfied that he had gotten what he demanded he released the passengers. After arguing about leaving the staircase down before takeoff, it remained closed and one of the flight attendants showed him how to open it.

He told the pilots to fly at a certain hight, and at a certain speed. Eventually opening the door and jumping from the plane.

While I could go into more detail here, I would rather get to the speculation. There is a lot of great information out there that is not going to biased like my opinion. Season 1 Episode 5 of the old Robert Stack Unsolved Mysteries does a great reenactment of the events for its time, and even has interviews with some of the flight attendants that spoke directly with DB Cooper. For more in depth information about this case I would start there.

The speculation…….

John Douglas, the FBI agent and the author of Mindhunter, picked up from a bank robber that he was selective about choosing which banks to rob. He called this in some way profiling, and he applied the idea to serial offenders. With a lot of success and has left me wondering a bunch of times after reading his book, how did he fucking that…. Like the double breasted suit. How?

Anyway, not to get to off topic.

Have you ever put yourself there? Walking down this stair case, 10,000 feet above the earth, going around 200 mph. How the fuck did he even know where he was?

Now lets go back to the profiling. What if he did know where he was? Then is that possible?

I recently watched the series band of brothers. If you haven’t seen it I can promise you this, you will go through a world of emotions contemplating what these people went through. It also gives you that glimpse into being there. Inside one of those “flying tin cans” with a parachute strapped to your back, at night so the enemy cant see you. Way back in the 1940’s when things weren't don’t by sophisticated computers. Relaying on a navigator to go by land marks of light, the speed of the plane and a compass to gather your location. Letting you know when it is time to jump to coordinate your movements with others on the ground. We did in fact train people to do this.

Now this is 1971, the estimates of Coopers age was mid 40’s. Even at 45 in 1971, would make you 15 in 1941. Which is the same year as Pearl Harbor. Since this is a guess of his age, lets just say he was 17? Cooper could have joined the military any time after Pearl Harbor, as people were known to lie about their age to be able to serve.

So if DB Cooper was a navigator in World War 2 and had lived through however many flights, he was probably really good at it, and also trained to be able to jump out of a plane going this speed. With actual jumps under his belt as well.

If you consider this with some of things that were going on around that time with some of things he said it makes you wonder. Boeing at that time was laying off thousands in the Seattle area. If you were consider that not only this person might have been ex military, and worked at a Boeing factory for 20 plus years after the war only to get laid off, you might have a grudge. Which is maybe why he said “I don’t have a grudge with your airline, I just have a grudge.”

To be clear I am not saying this is what happened, but after all of these years it might be valid to ask these questions. So my other question I wanted to speculate on is, did he live?

The money found on Tena Bar may shed some insight that speaks to if Cooper lived. Along with the fact that they never found him, and he even may have sent a letter to the press saying he was on some island.

The 3 wads of cash were all found together on Tena bar in Washington. The cash was bound separately in 3 piles with three rubber bands. They were not bound together. Which logic dictates that it is more probable that it was placed there by someone rather than floated down the river. Also there were some tests about how long the rubber bands could have gone in that environment without breaking down, and it was only a couple of years.

So to me it at least seems possible that the money was keep from the elements for a significant time before being placed there intentionally to be found. I would guess intentionally for a couple of reasons. One to let people know that he lived and/or to see if he could ever actually spend the money.

Thanks for reading.